It seems that recently, the 1000.2 is becoming a more popular Dish option to
fta and causes a lot of confusion. Hopefully, this how-to will briefly explain how
they work and how to properly install them.
First of all, this is a ProPlus Dish /lnb that is designed to receive 3 birds (110,
119, and 129) right out of the box. It has internal diseqc switching and will
work with up to 3 stb's. Even though it has 4 "ports" on the Lnb , it only has 3
outputs to stb's. The 4th is a +port which is actually an " lnb in" port where you
can connect another pro Dish /lnb into it (from another bird such as 91/82) and
it will combine this bird with the other 3 birds and distribute it to all stb's
connected without having to run another cable into your house.
A very common misconception about this setup has to do with the internal
diseqc switch in the Lnb . As long as no outside diseqc is used in combination
with it, you will get all 3 or 4 (if + port is used with another pro Lnb ) birds on 1
cable going to your stb. If you have 3 stb's, you will simply need to run 1 cable
from a port to stb 1, run another cable to stb 2, and run a third cable to stb 3.
This cable already has the signal from all the birds so you don't have to run
thru any other switching to get it. Your stb will switch it automatically, when
properly set up.
Another misconception is what happens if you do run an external diseqc to this
Lnb . If you do, by default, it will shut off the internal diseqc and will not
combine these signals on 1 cable. It will then only give 1 specific bird from each
port. Port 4 (+ port in) will be deactivated. This means that 1 port will be for
110, another port for 119, and 3rd port will be for 129, as they will not be
combined automatically anymore.
The most common problem with the 1000.2 has to do with it being a power
hog. Any pro+ Lnb is extremely power hungry and requires more power than
most fta stb's can provide. These Lnb's require .6 amps to work properly. Most
stb's only supply .5 amps. If you are lucky, your stb will provide enough power
for it to work properly. If a day or 2 after getting it all installed, you suddenly
lose your signal, this is a sign that it is not getting enough power. This can be
verified if you can do a hard reboot (turn switch off at back of stb) and your
signal comes back in for a short time. If this does happen, you have a couple of
options. The easiest option is to find an old dp (must be pro because pro series
has a higher power output than legacy series) receiver and connect it to the Lnb
. This old receiver will supply power so you won't have to use an external
source, but you will lose 1 output by doing this. Another option is by using a
2nd stb. Most of the time, if you have 2 or more stb's and leave them on, the
Lnb will get enough power to keep it running. The last option is by using a dp44
power inserter. This is the actual power supply that comes with a dishpro 44
switch. You simply connect a cable from this power supply to a port on your
Lnb and plug it in. This just "insert's" power into the Lnb , but it will cost you 1
of your outputs.
*Edit*More info about power inserters
Some of the options include using a dn pro (must be Dish pro due to power
requirements) sub unit just as an additional power source. The old legacy units
will not have enough power output to do what is needed.
You can also use what is called a dishpro adapter (part# 111690) that you can
probably find on fleabay for around $20. These were used by dn on their old
legacy subs to adapt them to a pro system. All this does is allow you to plug
your cable from a legacy sub into this adapter and then run it to the Dish /lnb.
They are simply a small module that plugs into a 120v wall outlet, has a cable
in and cable out connector on it.
The method I use with my 1000.2 is a DP44 power supply. You do not need the
complete DP44 switch...just the power supply and it is also available on fleabay
for around $20. It is designed to connect inline like the adapter mentioned
above.
My suggestion is that the adapter or D44 power supply is not used inline with
your fta stb. The fta boxes recommend not to be used with their input/output
being tapped/split as they claim they can be damaging to your equipment
although I have talked to many people who have done it this way. I would
recommend connecting it to an unused port on the Lnb so that you are
supplying power independantly of the other inputs/outputs. With my 1000.2, it
has 3 outputs to independant stb's and I simply connect it to one of the unused
ones.
I will say up front, if this is your first Dish install, you may be ready to throw it
before you are done. With any multi-dish, they can be tricky to properly setup.
1. Install mast perfectly plumb. This means it is leveled on at least 2 sides at
90 degrees apart. If you don't believe anything that I say except for this, trust
me, it has to be plumb, and I am not talking about "good enough". If the mast
is off/leaning the least little bit, you will have signal/quality issues on at least 1
bird, if not all. If it takes you 30 minutes to plumb this and bolt the mast
securely, it might save you several days in the long run.
2. Go ahead and mount the Lnb to the Dish and connect 1 cable to 1 of the 3
regular ports (not the +port). Take aluminum foil and loosely cover over the 2
outer "eyes" of the Lnb . This is to block the signal from those 2 so we can only
concentrate on the center "eye", which is the one designed for 119.
3. Use one of the online sat calculators to find the exact coordinates based on
where you live. When you get all the elevation, set your Dish up to that angle
and just lightly snug it. Go ahead and take the skew angle and set your mount
up to correspond with it. You can snug this one down for now as you will be
adjusting it last.
4. Get a magnetic compass like the one you would use for camping or finding
directions. The adjustment you got for your azimuth will be used for this. Use
the compass and aim it toward the azimuth setting you got from the calculator.
This will give you a good idea of which way the Dish has to be turned. Now, set
your Dish /lnb on the mount and turn it in the direction that your compass
pointed.
Note: For the next step, it is easiest to take a portable tv along with your stb
out to your mounting site so you can see what is going on while making
adjustments.
5. Go ahead and put your Dish /lnb on the mount and turn it in the direction
shown from the compass. You do not connect or disconnect any cable to this
Lnb while the stb is plugged in, so make sure it is not plugged in while making
the connections. It can blow the internal diseqc. Connect the cable from your
stb to your lnb, connect your tv so you can see what is going on, and plug in
your stb and allow to boot.
6. Next, we are going to set up the stb for this Dish so it will know what to do.
Go to Menu>Installation>Antenna Setup, Satellite line and change to 119, lnb
power on, type is ocs-dp, freq is 11250, 22khz off, tp freq 12239, diseqc set to
port 1, motor off, and legacy none. When you get all this done, you are going to
check the meters at the bottom of the screen to see if you have signal/quality.
If you do, make sure the bar at the top of the screen is showing 119 also. If so,
you want to slowly move the Dish from side to side and find the highest s/q you
are receiving. When you find this, snug the bolts that lock the azimuth setting in
and make a mark from the mast to the mount for later reference. Next, we are
going to tweak the elevation. Make a note of your current s/q, loosen the
elevation bolts and move the Dish up/down very slightly til you find the
strongest s/q. When you do, make a mark there too. By now, you should see a
big difference. Tighten the elevation bolts back down and slowly loosen the
azimuth bolts again. Very slightly, move the Dish side to side to peak the signal
to the highest point. When you find it, lock it down and verify you are still
showing 119 at the top right of the screen. Since this bird is working on the
center eye of the lnb, it is like a pivot point and should stay where it is when
you have to adjust the skew in the next step for the other 2 birds. If at any time
while completing the settings in the menu it should ask about saving, tell it yes.
Same applies as you change the next ones also.
7. Remove the aluminum foil from the outer 2 eyes that you placed on there
earlier. You should still be in the menu, so we are going to change the Satellite
to 110, and change the settings to the same as used for 119 except that we
need tp freq to be 12224 and diseqc to be changed to port 2. When you make
these changes, hopefully, you will be showing a good s/q reading at the bottom
and showing 110 at the top of the screen. If not, you need to loosen the skew
bolts (skew only) and slowly move the skew slightly to get the signal peaked
out. After doing so, tighten the skew bolts back and make a mark on it so you
can find it later if necessary.
8. Still being in the menu, change the sat to 129, same settings except that
diseqc now needs to be port 3. You should have good s/q after changing ports
and it should be showing 129 at the top of the screen. If the s/q are weak, you
will have to loosen the skew bolts and skew the Dish around slightly. There is
only 1 problem here...when you move the skew now, you will be changing it for
110 also. What you sometimes have to do here is to try to find a happy medium
between s/q for 110 and 129 because one can't be tweaked without changing
the other.
9. By now, you should be getting good s/q from all 3 birds. If you are not,
chances are that your mast is not plumb, as I warned you about in the first
step. Another thing is that by default, the tp freq for 119 will always change
from 12239 that we set it up for. This is fine, but each time you come into this
part of the menu for 119, you need to manually change it to 12239 because if
you don't, it will show s/q of 110 instead.
If for some reason, you are still not getting good s/q from all 3 birds, I suggest
you go back, re-plumb the mast and start all over again. As I said before, being
plumb is critical for good reception with this Dish .
Good luck with your new Dish and hope you many years of enjoyment.
*note: 12516 is also a tp freq that can be used for 129 if you are unable to get
the other. Sometimes spotbeams are used and the default tp may not be
available in your area.
Source: Google.
I hope it helps
by ROTMANLUV 2023-07-08, 17:34
