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Drdanskills Enthusiast
Posts : 1797 Location : Benin City
| Subject: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-03, 18:35 | |
| How large a dish do I need for my desired satellite?
Practicalities
Before you determine how large a dish must be before you can receive a specific channel, there are a number of operational factors that need to be taken into account:
1. The make and efficiency of the dish – a solid dish will outperform a mesh dish of the same size. Similarly, a one-piece solid dish will be better than a segmented solid dish. 2. The quality of the LNB – the lower the noise figure (dB) and the smaller the local oscillator drift (KHz), the better the performance of the LNB. Note that some manufacturers only quote the best noise figures for their LNBs, rather than the average figure across the frequency band. 3. The design of the feedhorn – a mismatched feedhorn (or LNBF) and dish will impact detrimentally on performanc
4. The sensitivity of the receiver tuner – there can be a wide variation in the sensitivity of satellite receiver tuners. The tuners in PCI DVB-S cards, for example, are generally not very sensitive. 5. Weather – a Ku-band signal will be seriously attenuated by moisture. This is less important for lower frequency C-band transmissions. 6. Error correction – for digital transmissions, the lower the error correction, the larger the dish required to maintain a stable picture. For example, if you were able to receive signals with an FEC of 1/2 without any problems, signals with an FEC of 2/3 would require an antenna that is 1.3 times larger than the original antenna. Signals with an FEC of 3/4 means an antenna 1.4 times larger and with an FEC of 5/6 a factor of 1.5 is required. 7. Cable quality and length - poor quality cable or long runs of coax will impact on performance. A detailed analysis is provided here.
Theory With the above points in mind, we can now look at interpreting footprint charts. These charts can be split into 3 types: Global beam – 40% coverage of the earth’s surface. The signal strength degrades gradually as you move away from the focal point i.e. fringes. Hemi beam – 20% coverage or one half of the hemisphere. Zone/Spot beam – confined to a small area, but usually with high power output. The signal strength falls abruptly as you move away from the target zone. | |
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Drdanskills Enthusiast
Posts : 1797 Location : Benin City
| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-03, 18:51 | |
| Based on the above information, we can now determine what is the minimum diameter dish required to receive a specific channel. Remember, however, that these values are only a guide and will vary depending on your actual system.
Ku-band EIRP values vs. dish diameter (LNB noise figure of 0.7dB) EIRP Size EIRP Size 55dBW 40cm 43dBW 100cm 54dBW 45cm 42dBW 110cm 53dBW 50cm 41dBW 120cm 52dBW 50cm 40dBW 120cm 51dBW 55cm 39dBW 135cm 50dBW 60cm 38dBW 150cm 49dBW 65cm 37dBW 180cm 48dBW 70cm 36dBW 240cm 47dBW 75cm 35dBW 300cm 46dBW 80cm 34dBW 355cm 45dBW 90cm 33dBW 400cm 44dBW 90cm 32dBW 450cm Direct links to the satellite EIRP charts can be found at Lyngsat. Satbeams also provide EIRP charts in a single, standardised format. | |
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Twogoods Expert
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-03, 18:59 | |
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Drdanskills Enthusiast
Posts : 1797 Location : Benin City
| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-03, 19:51 | |
| - Twogoods wrote:
- what is this pls???
Have you read through? | |
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Arbourboateng Senior
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-03, 21:50 | |
| - Drdanskills wrote:
- How large a dish do I need for my desired satellite?
Practicalities
Before you determine how large a dish must be before you can receive a specific channel, there are a number of operational factors that need to be taken into account:
1. The make and efficiency of the dish – a solid dish will outperform a mesh dish of the same size. Similarly, a one-piece solid dish will be better than a segmented solid dish. 2. The quality of the LNB – the lower the noise figure (dB) and the smaller the local oscillator drift (KHz), the better the performance of the LNB. Note that some manufacturers only quote the best noise figures for their LNBs, rather than the average figure across the frequency band. 3. The design of the feedhorn – a mismatched feedhorn (or LNBF) and dish will impact detrimentally on performanc
4. The sensitivity of the receiver tuner – there can be a wide variation in the sensitivity of satellite receiver tuners. The tuners in PCI DVB-S cards, for example, are generally not very sensitive. 5. Weather – a Ku-band signal will be seriously attenuated by moisture. This is less important for lower frequency C-band transmissions. 6. Error correction – for digital transmissions, the lower the error correction, the larger the dish required to maintain a stable picture. For example, if you were able to receive signals with an FEC of 1/2 without any problems, signals with an FEC of 2/3 would require an antenna that is 1.3 times larger than the original antenna. Signals with an FEC of 3/4 means an antenna 1.4 times larger and with an FEC of 5/6 a factor of 1.5 is required. 7. Cable quality and length - poor quality cable or long runs of coax will impact on performance. A detailed analysis is provided here.
Theory With the above points in mind, we can now look at interpreting footprint charts. These charts can be split into 3 types: Global beam – 40% coverage of the earth’s surface. The signal strength degrades gradually as you move away from the focal point i.e. fringes. Hemi beam – 20% coverage or one half of the hemisphere. Zone/Spot beam – confined to a small area, but usually with high power output. The signal strength falls abruptly as you move away from the target zone. Nice one Bro, this would help for us to determine the size and satellite it will nail. | |
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Ibaku Amateur
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-03, 23:00 | |
| I think pro installers already got the drift. nice one pal !
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Drdanskills Enthusiast
Posts : 1797 Location : Benin City
| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-13, 20:57 | |
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FREDRICKEBUN Senior
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-14, 07:49 | |
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delafirst Leader
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-14, 14:19 | |
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Safex Master
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-14, 18:57 | |
| - Twogoods wrote:
- what is this pls???
u hav com here 2 disgrace ursef again ehn? | |
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Safex Master
Posts : 14223 Location : Arabsat 20E
| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-14, 18:59 | |
| - Drdanskills wrote:
- Thanks guys.
more grease 2 ya elbow jare baba Big-Dish. buh I fink d stowy neva finish o | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-14, 19:04 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-15, 07:31 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2015-07-15, 14:09 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-04-23, 13:39 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-04-23, 13:41 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-04-23, 14:30 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-04-23, 15:13 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-04-26, 21:22 | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-04-27, 07:30 | |
| - Twogoods wrote:
- what is this pls???
Limit of the dish and size | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-04-27, 15:11 | |
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| Subject: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-05-05, 18:15 | |
| you should first check the beam of the satellite you want to target. If the beam focuses on your country, you will not need a big satellite. You only need to use a bigger dish if you want to target offbeam satellites. Visit africasatvierwers.com to get more answers. Good Luck! | |
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| Subject: Re: Determining appropriate dish sizes for satellites beams 2016-05-05, 22:20 | |
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